Are We Smarter & Better than the British on National Health Care . . . ?
~ See Wesley J. Smith's Secondhand Smoke post about nationalized health care and the necessary evil of rationing . . .
Liberal Values makes good start in defending Democratic health care plans against a slew of conservative bloggers, but -- it doesn't go far enough. It's start, but that's all it is.
I'm sure the post is correct that there are significant differences between the British & Canadian plans and the plans advocated by Democratic candidates.
But this raises a host of troubling questions:
1. Why aren't the British & Canadian plans good enough as is? If nationalizing health care is both the only moral and practical way to go, while no "system" is perfect, can the British & Canadian plans be that badly implemented that the Democratic candidates are trying to distance themselves from them as much as possible?
2. If this is true, the next question is -- why can't the British & Canadians fix things? The private sector is a failure, right? Nationalizing health care is THE answer, right? How hard can it be to get it right? It's stories like this that worry people (like me): Patients pull own teeth as dental contract falters (The Guardian, 10 . 15 . 2007):
Norman Lamb, Liberal Democrat health spokesman, said: "Eight years after Labour promised that everyone would have access to an NHS dentist, this survey shows the system is at breaking point.
~ The Guardian, 10 . 15 . 2007
Eight years!!!?? Come on!!! What's the problem? Or is it just that it is the British & Canadians' problem, not ours, because we Americans are obviously so much smarter then the British & Canadians, and we know how to solve such problems. Is that the response?
Really -- what are the real difference between existing real-world national health care systems and Democratic promises? Why should I be assured that American bureaucracy will be better providing heath care than anyone else ever has?
3. Finally, despite their ongoing problems, if the British & Canadian plans are still better then what we have now -- the hell with it then. Just implement the damn plans now. What is there to think about? The debate is over, right?
Liberal Values and other liberal bloggers are obviously smart motivated individuals. They should blog about these questions -- because this IS the debate; these ARE the questions (at least they're my questions).
It's not enough to say the Democratic plans are different and therefore the debate is over. If only it were that easy and simple . . .
Disclosure about how well I'm trying to manipulate you: the headline of this post ('We're Smarter & Better than the British on National Health Care ') has an Emotional Marketing Value Score of 12.5%. A bit on the low side, but what it lacks in percentiles, it makes up for with empathetic appeal . . .
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Heck of a Job, Doctor Brownie
By Michael Tanner
Groucho Marx famously referred to second marriages as “the triumph of hope over experience.” He could just as easily have been referring to those who believe the federal government should run the American health care system.
Just take a look at the health care systems the government already runs. The Veterans Health Administration system is a national disgrace. The VHA budget is a political football. While the program struggles with chronic budgetary problems, politicians from both parties see it has a source of political pork -- sending funds to VHA hospitals with low utilization rates not out of need, but because they reside in the districts of powerful congressional committee leaders.
As a result, the VHA recently suspended enrollments on more than 250,000 veterans to cut costs, and it maintains a very restrictive pharmaceutical formulary that often denies veterans access to the newest and most effective drugs. A study by Prof. Frank Lichtenberg of Columbia University estimated that the restricted availability of drugs has reduced the average survival of veterans under VHA care by as much as two months.
Rationing is also beginning to delay or deny care to some veterans altogether, particularly in special areas like mental health. The Miami Herald reports that nearly 100 local VA clinics provide virtually no mental health care. The average veteran with psychiatric troubles gets almost one-third fewer visits with specialists than he would have received a decade ago, and several have been turned away from VA hospitals, which helps to explain the recent rash of suicides of veterans with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
Early this year, Newsweek reported on the VHA as “an overloaded bureaucracy cluttered with red tape; veterans having to wait weeks or months for mental-health care and other appointments; families sliding into debt as VA case managers study disability claims over many months, and the seriously wounded requiring help from outside experts just to understand the VA’s arcane system of rights and benefits.”
More examples? How about Medicaid?. Does anyone really believe it provides high quality and reasonable cost? Medicaid now costs more than $330 billion per year, a cost that grew at a rate of roughly 10.7 percent in the first half of 2007. While the federal government picks up 57 percent of the cost, it is now the single largest item in state budgets, even larger than elementary and secondary education. The program spends money by the bushel, yet notoriously under-reimburses doctors, driving them out of the program and sending patients to emergency rooms for care.
According to the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission only 69.5 percent of physicians are willing to accept new Medicaid patients. As a result, Medicaid patients find significant barriers to receiving primary care. The number of Medicaid beneficiaries who use emergency department services for non-emergency care is higher than the rate for those in any other payer group, including the uninsured.
And the care received by those on Medicaid is often inferior to that received by those with private insurance. According to a study in the Annals of Internal Medicine the most important predictor of treatment and outcome in the study was whether the patient had Medicaid or private insurance.
One more? Let’s look at Medicare. The program faces $50-70 trillion in unfunded liabilities, and was recently forced to cut back on reimbursements to hospitals and physicians; its first, highly inadequate step toward controlling costs.
Yet for all this money, there remain gaps in Medicare’s coverage. Unlike private insurance, Medicare actually cuts back on reimbursements the sicker you are and the longer you stay in the hospital. While private alternatives have long included prescription drugs, Medicare didn’t add a drug benefit until 2003. And even then it was a bizarre design, with its doughnut hole, confusing menu of options, and unfunded $11 trillion cost. Medicare still does not cover long-term care.
And studies have repeatedly shown that the quality of care provided is wildly uneven and pretty much mediocre overall. One study graded the care received by Medicare benefices for six medical conditions (heart attack, breast cancer, diabetes, heart failure, pneumonia, and stroke). The study used 24 measures for evaluating standards of care and graded performance on a scale of 1-100. The median score was just 73, a “C-.”
This is not a track record that inspires confidence. Yet, for some reason politicians continue to push government-run national health care. Have they forgotten that this is the same government that has mismanaged everything from Iraq to Hurricane Katrina? That has run up $15.5 trillion in unfunded liabilities for Social Security and still can’t find Osama bin Laden? And now we want it to become our national doctor?
What is there about our experience with government that suggests it is competent to run one-seventh of the American economy, let alone make many of our most private and personal decisions for us?
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Michael Tanner is director of health and welfare studies at the Cato Institute and author of Leviathan on the Right: How Big-Government Conservativism Brought Down the Republican Revolution
Michael Tanner
Director
Health & Welfare Studies
The track record that doesn't inspire confidence is that of Republican administrations. The politicians pushing for government-run national healthcare are those that would administer it correctly.
I would be afraid if we had a national healthcare system and conservatives took power again - they would simply cut the budget or legislate tax breaks to those who were healthy and purchased private insurance. That would ruin the government-run system, yet somehow it would end up being the system itself that was at faulty, not the particular politicians running it...
Hey Daniel,
thanks for taking the time to respond to my post.
You have a faith in government that "surpasseth all understanding" :)
Perhaps you're correct that "[t]he politicians pushing for government-run national healthcare are those that would administer it correctly."
but this begs the question (if I remember correctly what I learned my logic 101 course): where are these types of politicians in Canadian and the U.K.?
If you are indeed correct, then I guess the answer to the question "Are We Smarter & Better than the British on National Health Care?" would be "yes."
Do you agree with that?
Thanks again for taking the time to comment.
- Cheers,
Christopher
Micheal Tanner responded to Daniel's comment by email. I've copied it below:
- Christopher
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Can anyone name a government program, run and/or devised by either party, that actually works?
Michael Tanner
Director
Health & Welfare Studies
Have you read my new book, Leviathan on the Right: How Big-Government Conservativism Brought Down the Republican Revolution
Anybody who makes a budget knows that one must make tough choices to live within that budget, to include national healthcare or any other part of the federal budget. Called rationing or otherwise, is it really a benefit when the decision to have surgery is made within the constraints of the federal budget.
The current private system isn't much better, as it's also considerably removed from market principles. A product of a 1940s campaign against wage inflation, the employer health insurance tax deduction has raised generations to believe that the employer is the only source of health insurance.
Since the users of the insurance are not a meaningful party to the transaction, they have no incentive to control costs. By insisting on coupling health insurance with employment, we in fact cede authority and responsibility to our employers and insurers. Today at least that third party is somewhat competitive.
Another side effect of this artificial coupling is the job lock phenomenon. Many Americans are effectively stuck in jobs that they do not like only to stabilize their health insurance. Thus the current system already limits choice and strains productivity.
It would only worsen under a government system, as this would further remove the customers from the financial part of the equation. As P.J. O'Rourke points out: "If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free."
We need to fix the system, but unlike the politicians claim, we can either move closer toward freedom or farther from it. The first step is to get the third parties, including the government and the employers, out of the business and put the money and control in the hands of the real customers.